| Scheduled Maintenance and Rules Change; Important: Please Read! | |
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| Topic Started: May 11 2014, 03:02 PM (3,546 Views) | |
| Admin | May 11 2014, 03:02 PM Post #1 |
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On the weekend of the 24th of May the forum will be going offline and will be inaccessible to all members for a period of one or two days. During those two days several changes will be occurring to the forum. Firstly the entire membership list will be under review to ensure the Club Member group reflects the club membership list. Anyone who has not updated their club subscription for the year 2014 will lose access to the Club Member area of the forum. The rules governing the discussion of politics on the forum will be expanded and an explanation for the existence given. More importantly new rules are being introduced that govern the Trading Places area of the forum. I’ll list the rules below but the most important one to be aware of is that the right to sell items or offer items for trade on the forum will be the sole domain of IPMS Ireland Club Members. That means that only Club Member of IPMS Ireland who are registered members of the forum will be able to sell items or offer items for trade through the forum. All members of the forum, Club or otherwise, will be to buy items or participate in posted trades however. This is a decision laid down by the IPMS Ireland Committee. The new rules for Trading Places will now be listed. You should all study them closely as they will be coming into effect on the 26th of May. Rules for Trading Places
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| yeehah1 | May 12 2014, 02:34 AM Post #2 |
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12 05 2014 Should this rule change not be put to the membership first? Liam |
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| Murfv | May 12 2014, 11:24 AM Post #3 |
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Just curious Liam, but why do you believe that this rule change be put to the membership first? By membership I assume you mean IPMS Ireland club membership. Edited by Murfv, May 12 2014, 11:35 AM.
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Vincent It's my hobby and I will enjoy it my way!
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| yeehah1 | May 13 2014, 01:24 AM Post #4 |
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I'll answer the question with a question: Why wouldn't it? It directly affects the IPMS membership and the non-IPMS membership. Non-members will not be allowed to place items for sale or trade on a forum that was intended to be inclusive for all modellers who signed n here, not just exclusively IPMS members. But non-members will be able to buy/trade whatever IPMS members put up for sale or trade? So, non-members become a consumer base for members. Non-members cannot sell their own items when they need to off-load some kits etc, but they can put money into the members pockets without restriction? Nice stroke, there. It's a significant change to the forum and it's being made in their name but without even a consultation. The other changes are perfectly reasonable . I can hazard a guess as to why it was felt necessary to do so but I think imposing such a restriction will count in a more negative fashion. The trade/sell forum is not and was not - on this or most other forums - meant to be a benefit of membership to IPMS Ireland, but a free to access point of exchange for members of the FORUM. Like a reverse-KitSwop -which is primarily for IPMS Members and IS a benefit of membership. It does not encourage me to renew my membership. Liam Edited by yeehah1, May 13 2014, 01:36 AM.
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| Michael M | May 13 2014, 08:29 AM Post #5 |
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Isn't that typical attitude: I want everything, and let some other dumbass pay for it..... Forum is not for FREE as far as i know, so if You want to have benefits, chip in. |
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| Bernd B. | May 13 2014, 08:44 AM Post #6 |
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It is an old discussion ... he who owns the forum makes the rules. So you either accept or move on. This is totally independent of the question whether the forum actually costs money (there is a huge number of forum providers who will actually let you put up one for free or, to be precise, in exchange for ad placement). |
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| Admin | May 21 2014, 10:38 AM Post #7 |
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Just a reminder, this Saturday the forum will be offline and inaccessible while work is being done to it. I'm hoping to have everything taken care of on the Saturday. |
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| yeehah1 | May 21 2014, 04:53 PM Post #8 |
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21 05 2014 Hi Michael, Thanks for your input however, the changes, as I understand them, are to do with the operation of the buy and sell forum and have nothing to do with helping to pay for the upkeep of the overall forum itself... which is paid for via membership fees etc. Again, with the majority of IPMS modelling forums ( or modelling forums in general) the buy/sell/trade forums are typically open to ALL comers. You do not need to be a member of the club but do need to be a member of the forum and have a certain number of posts before you can avail of the services provided by the buy/sell/forum. It's not a case of wanting everything for free. For those who do not know, myself, Roy MacKay and Alan Brislane set up not just the forum, but this entire organisation starting with IPMS: Four Provinces and then moving it along to IPMS: Ireland at the relevant point. Sadly, I have let my membership lapse but the intention was that the forum, in it's entirety, was for the benefit of all modellers who joined the forum. Inclusive, not exclusive. The buy/sell/trade forum was not, ever, meant to be a benefit of membership... that was reserved for the kit-swop, the magazine, entry to various competitions, organised trips and so on. And, as others have stated, eloquently or otherwise, I am entitled ( as much as anyone, given I am one of the seven founding members of the entire organisation) to voice - not my opinion - but my concern as to the direction the club is heading. Anyways, it appears apparent that nobody else feels concerned about these changes so what will be, will be. Peace out ![]() Liam |
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| FiSe | May 21 2014, 07:53 PM Post #9 |
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Heil Mickey!
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I do take it. that the committee members are trying to find some direction which the club should go, trying to figure out, what exactly should be the benefit of the club membership and so on. I do take it, that this is reconnaissance mission of the best way to go, which is positive in the meaning that somebody in the committee, actually starts thinking along the lines of what benefit the club membership brings to the subscribers. The negative is that these changes somehow reminds me of the well known saying about 'grasping the straw'. To be perfectly honest, I'd rather have my embroidered club logo hoodie thrown in for free every 5 years or so, instead of occasional Newsletter as a club member's privilege, nevertheless the new regulations don't bother me at all: - firstly, because I am still member - secondly, because I wouldn't expect to sell or buy anything on this forum - if I do, that's a bonus - because of my limited scale of interest and small membership on here. Britmodeller or some large international forum, that's a different game, not here, though There are people responsible for running and maintenance of this forum and there are people responsible for the running and development of the club itself and if this experiment will not work, the forum will be loosing members as a direct consequence of this action then there will have to be some answers on some questions on the next AGM from those guys. I would say, let's do it, let's see how it works, or doesn't work, and let's have a quick talk about it in September, with open mind /!/. I am sure that these changes are reversible. For now, though, I am sitting on the fence... BTW, I am looking after the kids, trying to put them in the bed and typing at the same time, so there might be some mistakes Edited by FiSe, May 21 2014, 08:10 PM.
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| Admin | May 24 2014, 09:24 PM Post #10 |
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The planned changes to the forum have been made. Some members may need to reset their Branch affiliations in their profiles. If anyone is experiencing any issues since the change then please notify me. |
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| 35th-Scale | May 24 2014, 09:35 PM Post #11 |
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Thanks for all the work you put in here today Sean, and every other day too! |
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| Parkadge | May 24 2014, 09:54 PM Post #12 |
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Yes well done Sean |
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| BKirwan | May 25 2014, 12:46 PM Post #13 |
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Yes thank you Sean for the time and effort you put into your adminsiators tasks. We appreciate it even though we don't say so very often. Since you look on the task the forum is been run in a very professional manner. Oh yea, I particularly liked the message you left for those of us who tried accessing the site during the maintenance. I took your advice and actually did some modelling,the first time in 5 months..... Kind regards, Brian Edited by BKirwan, May 25 2014, 12:47 PM.
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| Joseph M | May 25 2014, 04:34 PM Post #14 |
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Nice one Sean, well done. Cheers Joe M |
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| ghengismccann | May 25 2014, 05:15 PM Post #15 |
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Agreed, good job Sean and also with Brian about the message. I logged on for my morning fix, read,blushed,smiled and then started my Modern Wheels build. regards |
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| Karl187 | May 25 2014, 05:43 PM Post #16 |
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Just adding my thanks to Sean in here. I also liked the message !
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| Parkadge | May 25 2014, 07:26 PM Post #17 |
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For those of us who didn't see the message Sean can you tell us what it was? |
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| Admin | May 25 2014, 08:14 PM Post #18 |
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| Prenton | May 25 2014, 08:28 PM Post #19 |
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Excellent! (and quite effective, going by the admissions by those members above!) Philip |
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