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Revell 1:24 Red Bull Racing RB8 +++FINISHED+++
Topic Started: Dec 27 2014, 10:04 PM (26,191 Views)
Jasonb
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Hi all,

I'm doing the KUTA GB and I took advantage of getting back to the bench for the first time in a long time to also get started on my next build, Vettel's RB8. I've always had an interest in F1 and I watched a few races at the end of the most recent season which got me into it again. Then I went looking for F1 kits and this one grabbed my eye:


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It's Red Bull's 2012 car, with which Vettel won the World Championship and Red Bull won the Constructor's Championship (both for the third consecutive year).

I've never done any sort of car in my life, so I'm definitely out of my comfort zone with this one. I am already trying to figure out what order to build it, and more importantly, when to paint/decal it. The main Blue is a Tamiya Rattle Can that I also bought, so I reckon I'll be spraying most of the blue on the individual parts and then assembling them, as masking the non-blue parts would be a nightmare. The decals go on as you build, though I'm not certain whether I should put any colour on the parts that are covered by the 'Carbon Fibre' decals.

Anyhow, today I got all the sprues primed, and here they are:


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And here are all the decals, a key component of this build as you can imagine:


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Most of the top right of the sheet are the 'Carbon Fibre' decals.

The first few steps are assembling the engine, which won't really be seen anyhow, so I'm safe enough there. But I'd appreciate any build advice about cars, especially F1 cars. Apart from the Tamiya Rattle Can for the blue, everything else will be brush painted. I hope to get started on this in the next couple of days.

Thanks...

J.
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Interesting build, Jason - good luck!

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That looks cool Jason - I didn't think you had a 'comfort zone', given the variety of builds you do.

I sent you an SMS link to an online build of that kit; there's plenty of build examples out there on the 'web. From what I've read, the tail assembly needs to be all built & finished first, with the other parts built as sub-assemblies. And the decals need plenty of solution to fit around all the curves.

Good luck with the build!
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Thanks for that Dermot! And I suppose you right, I've done a few different types of builds over the last few years. That said, this does actually have wings on it, though they're upside down... :)

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Hi Jason

I built a Jordan F1 car years ago. I was thinking of building one over the Christmas, but ended up starting a London Taxi.

The only thing I can say to you is that the paint finish has to be perfect. As gloss paint will show up any mistakes. The paint finish is the BIG thing in car, motorbike and airline models.

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Thanks Ken, I was thinking/worried about that myself, it's all about the paint/decals. I'll see how I get on, I could do with an airbrush (and being skilled at using one!) but I'll make do with my normal brushes and the rattle can.

I broke the habit of a lifetime and started on this kit while still working on another (the 2nd gloss coat on the F-117a is drying). I got the engine done tonight, pretty straight forward, especially as none of it will be seen, so I could make do with a simple paint job and a bit of a wash:


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I quite like the metallic black part on the top, it's also the colour I'll be using under all the Carbon Fibre decals and it looks the part, which is good.

Anyhow, tomorrow is back to the F-117a so it'll be another couple of days before I get back to this, but it's good to have it started!

J.
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Jasonb
Dec 30 2014, 11:02 PM
I broke the habit of a lifetime and started on this kit while still working on another (the 2nd gloss coat on the F-117a is drying).
Jason, I think that is an easy habit to break, made myself the same promise when I took modelling back up and I think even before finishing the first model it got broke and a second begun.

Anyway looking very good, and like you a big F1 fan and even though this is Red Bull and Vettel of whom I'm not a fan of either I am following this build with interest and looking forward to it progressing.
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Thanks! Not a particular Red Bull or Vettel fan myself, but I'm very interested in the technological aspect of F1 so I wanted to build a pretty modern car, and this was the most modern one I could find! :)

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Interesting subject, I'm for a change completely uninterested in F1 ;) But why have you primed the parts in sprues ? Glue won't bite properly and you're losing the advantage of the first priming cote showing imperfections of sanding and filling. Or am I missing something? ;)
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Nope, not missing anything Michael, it's basically a compromise!

Firstly, I'm a brush painter, and I prime using a rattle can. Which means I have to prime outside, which depends on the weather, always awkward this time of year. So, to make things a bit easier for me, what I tend to do with a normal build (i.e an aircraft) is I prime all the internal parts (cockpit etc.) and some of the external parts (undercarriage, pylons etc.) on the sprues. The parts that make up the airframe I leave until assembled, and then prime to check seams etc. like you say. To be honest, I've never had much issue gluing primed parts together.

However, and here's the next point, I'm not familiar with this type of build (F1 car) at all, and even after checking the instructions several times, it's still not clear to me which parts will be fully internal or fully external, or worse, half and half, and therefore which parts could be primed separately. It's also very hard to tell which seams I have to worry about, and which will be hidden by other parts, once assembled.

So, to save time, make it easier on myself, and to take advantage of a bright, dry day, I primed the lot in one go. As I build, if I find a sub-assembly that has seams etc. that will be visible, I can always just do a light coat of primer again. The worry of the thickness of two coats of rattle can primer fades away compared to the thickness of brush painted paint anyhow.

So, basically I did it this way to make it easier on myself due to some restrictions (having to rattle can prime outdoors) and due to lack of familiarity with the construction process with this type of build.

Hope that all makes sense?

J.
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Jason I know exactly what you mean especially since moving to acrylics. It was less of an issue with enamels but as I usual paint sub assemblies as I go like you I find it easier to prime on the sprues with a rattle can out side and touch up if necessary with humbrol acrylic primer brush once glued. But again never had an issue with gluing and sometime think it help to seal seams easier least in my opinion.
But considering an airbrush for a very soon future purchase.
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It does make some sense ;) I was using rattle can primer up to he u-boot, my way was to sit on the kitchen floor, open the garden door and just prime inside almost on the doorstep, so weather wasn't a problem ;)
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Well, work continues, but quite exactly what the pieces I've added are meant to be I've no idea! :) Such is building a subject you're not familiar with.

Anyhow, first impressions with the kit is that's it's ok. That's fine, but I'd expect more than OK from a Revell kit made in 2013! The plastic is quite thick and soft, and there's some flash and a good bit of mold lines, along with large sprue attachment points which mean that sometimes you're not certain where the sprue ends and the part begins. Of course, some of this might be due to be not being familiar with the scale (1:24 is never going to be as thin and fine as 1:72 or 1:144) but it's still a little disappointing. I wouldn't let it put you off buying the kit though, it's just something to be aware of.

Anyhow, I've build what I'm fairly certain are the side intakes, along with a few bits and pieces that attach to them. I've also started building up the bodywork from the base. I had to have a good trawl through online pics to see if there should be panel lines or not, but from what I can see there should be, so that meant a lot less filling and sanding. That said, the pieces were an awkward shape and fit, so some sanding and re-painting will be needed to get rid of a little excess glue. The beginning of the sanding can already be seen in the first pic (on the right, near the back of the car), and once it's sanded and repainted it'll be fine, especially as decals will be covering it as well.

And that's really the next step; touch up the paint and then a coat of gloss (or two) before starting the decals. Am trying to keep an eye on the next few steps in the instructions; I don't want to go too far ahead in the construction and possibly miss some decals, but I also don't want to decal anywhere that's then going to have any glue/paint going near it!

The next update should hopefully have some decals on...

J.


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Interesting build Jason!

I hear you about priming - just too flippin' cold in our garage lately..frustrating.

All the best,
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Thanks Dermot... Yep, it is an interesting one, and it's keeping me on my toes, especially trying to figure out how best to continue.

Like I said, figuring out the best way to do the decals is interesting. A lot of the lower body work is covered in Carbon Fibre decals, and some parts need to have the decals on them before they are blocked/covered by another part, but I also don't want to put them on until I'm positive that no more pieces are going to be glued to them, or the decals could be ruined.

It's the same with the parts that are going to be sprayed with the Tamiya rattlecan Blue. As it would be next to impossible to mask the kit properly, those sections will probably be sprayed separately. But that means they'll then have to be glued on *after* painting, so that could be interesting too.

Of course, the fact that I can't quite get my head around where all the parts go and what's visible and what isn't when it's all done doesn't help either.

Have to say though, I'm really enjoying the build, it's a great mental exercise. Just gotta see if I can do it justice!

J.
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Got an hour today to try the first Carbon Fibre decals, and I'm pretty happy how they worked out. I deliberately started on some of the simpler pieces, without too many curves etc. So here's what the two piece rear suspension looks like:


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It's just dry fitted (as it goes around another piece during construction). I do like the look of the carbon fibre decals though. Now, if I can get the ones that follow the numerous complex curves of the lower body of the car to look as good, I'll be delighted! Some dry fitting has shown that no matter what I do, I'm going to have to glue plastic to plastic that already has decals on it, there's no way around it. So I just need to be especially careful when doing that gluing!

Don't know if I'll get anything done tomorrow, and then I'm back to work, but I'll try my best.

Thanks...

J
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Heil Mickey!
That looks very good, Jason. I would suggest to use gloss clear coat over the decals to give them that 'composite' look. Nice job on it.
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Thanks Filip! Yep, there'll be another coat of Klear going over all the decals to seal them in. The model will be finished in Gloss anyhow, so the more coats the merrier! :)

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I'm fairly sure some of the un identified bits include exhaust manifold ( where it attaches to engine ) and engine itself (?) Those air intakes are HUGE !!!
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Fair play Jason in tackling a subject I would never even consider for all the reasons who have mentioned but you're flying it...it'll look class
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