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1913 Depredussin Racer
Topic Started: Oct 17 2017, 12:36 PM (2,570 Views)
Marklo
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A small update..
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You can (I hope) see the reshaped horizontal tail surfaces and the skid, shaped, secured and painted.

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(a somewhat) Better picture of the tail. ( I miss my iphone sigh)
Edited by Marklo, Mar 22 2018, 09:44 AM.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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Lots of bits and pieces over the weekend:-
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First job, the bungee cords for the undercarriage. I spent a long time trying to figure out how to do this an dended up using 1mm heatshrink wrapped around the axle and struts as shown, might be a little over scale but it looks just about right to me. Still not sure whether to leave it black or paint it deck tan.

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More surgery I'm afraid; as I'm now committed to the 1912 Gordon Bennett racer, I needed to reshape the undercarriage legs, before and after (less a little sanding to smooth out the cuts)

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Wood effect, The interior was undercoated in sand, then out with the oil paints , orange and burnt umber for a wood grain effect. The fuselage interior is a birch ply with a very distinctive diagonal grain so cream undercoat then a mix of brown for the undercoat and burnt umber for the grain. Need to let them dry for a few days then varnish and decals in the case of the control panel. Just need some pedals and to fit the steering yoke and that's finished.

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Fitted the spinner to the propeller. Cut and added a number of plastic card disks to attach the spinner, you can just see the white line at the top of the spinner in this photo. Not visible in this pic but it needs quite a bit of filling between the back of the spinner and the discs.

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Dry fitting of all of this together ( I also drilled the bracing holes in the wings) and it's starting to look pretty good. So to my punch list from last week....

Fit the bungee cord to the undercarriage.
Fit the spinner to the prop.
Fit the cowl, and Spinner.
Fit the Cabane struts
Paint it and add any markings (B1 on the wings i think)
Do the rigging.
Fit and detail the interior.
Fit, sand and paint the upper deck

Phew, long post....
Edited by Marklo, Mar 26 2018, 10:56 AM.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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Marklo
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In case anyone is interested, this is the finish I'm talking about.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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Marklo
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Had guests over the weekend so didn't get as much done as planned, still some progress.

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Cut out and fitting for the kingposts (I think that's the correct name for them) I still have to shape the front to clear the cowl, but that's the last of the drilling done :) . Gave the whole assembly a coat of paint (switched to the AK deck tan from the Tamiya, not much in it, but I think I do prefer the AK ) And started rigging the tail, a little fiddly as I'm using 1mm heat shrink for turnbuckles and I have to thread the line around and back into itself, then secure with, still pleased with the overall look.

On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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Marklo
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All of the tail control lines in just need trimming and tensioning, I may paint them in battleship grey. 14 new (and much better) cylinders for the engine. 2mm tube wrapped in .25mm wire, with a 1mm spud for attachment to the hub all CA'd in place, just need trimming to length and assembly.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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So this wasn’t ‘vacformed’ it was thermo moulded ? Anyway it’s amazing ! Was in Le Bourget lastvweek and this plane wasn’t there .
Edited by fs2005, Apr 5 2018, 04:10 PM.
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Marklo
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No just Male/Female molded. Some Balsa a grill, burnt fingers and a bit of patience :) Probably right at the limit of the technique, but it worked pretty well.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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Did quite a few small tasks over the weekend, I can see the end of the build coming into sight.
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Rigging the tail and the undercarriage. All trimmed and tensioned.

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Interior bits and pieces. Painted the upper deck, assembled and painted the engine, Trimmed the steering Yoke and added attachment points, Trimmed the king posts. Fabricated a set of pedals, as I couldn't find any details, these are modelled on a SPAD XII set, mostly because it's the nearest descendant I could find a picture for (the D in SPAD is Deperdussin BTW) , added instrument decals to the control panel.

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And finally, everything dry fitted together. Unfortunately the tape on the propeller peeled off some of the paint, so I have to go again on that, but otherwise really happy with thebuild so far.

What's Left:
Fit the bungee cord to the undercarriage.
Fit the spinner to the prop.
Detail the interior.
Rig the Fuselage
Fit the interior
Fit, sand and paint the upper deck
Fit the wings
Fit the cowl, and Spinner.
Fit the Cabane struts
Paint it and add any markings (B1 on the wings i think)
Finish the rigging.


Edited by Marklo, Apr 9 2018, 08:35 AM.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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Joseph M

Lovely, lovely lovely. A joy to watch it coming together.
Cheers
Joe M
Stick & String Rule O.K.
On the bench in order of nearest to completion;
A Model 1/72 Spad A.2 Finished 24/4/18
A Z Models 1/72 Morane "WR". (Schneider race entry from 1914).
K P Models 1/72 Avia BH-3
Mark 1 Models 1/144 Gloster Gladiator
SRAM Models 1/144 SIA 7-B (Resin)
Valom Models 1144 A pair of Sopwith Pups
MSD Models 1/72 Vickers Vimy 66 Commercial
Glencoe Models 1/81 Curtiss Condor
Revell 1/72 Fokker D.VII conversion to a two seater
Curtiss Condor (added 24/4/18) 1/81
Ansaldo S.V.A 9 (added 24/4/18)

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Didn't get quite as much done over the weekend s planned. With the weather improving I spent some time on the garden and I also decided to tidy up my stash (mostly to see what bits might be available for future builds, found a seat, prop and vickers machinegun for the Pup), drawer and (started on ) my desk (started sorting out my paints and tools). I did do a bit on the PUP and a tiny bit on the Mig (just not getting the love I'm afraid, even though I keep saying I'll get stuck in and finish it , I keep ending up working on the Pup or the Deperdussin)

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There is a substantial amount of stick and string there, just to confuse everyone (myself included) the DR1 doesn't actually contain that kit it has a 1:72 Heinkel UHU in it, I never did finish the DR1 but for some reason still have the upper wing in my spares box :(

On the Deperdussin I did get more of the rigging done.

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That's the last of the underside wires laid in, which lets me get a little closer to fitting the interior and reattaching the fdoredecking.

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Bucket Seat, Cushion and seatbelt. Assembled:just a little bit more work and some varnishing and that's the interior finished and ready to fit.

What's Left:
Fit the bungee cord to the undercarriage.
Fit the spinner to the prop.
Detail the interior.
Rig the Fuselage
Fit the interior
Fit, sand and paint the upper deck
Fit the wings
Fit the cowl, and Spinner.
Fit the Cabane struts
Paint it and add any markings (B1 on the wings i think)
Finish the rigging.

Getting dangerously close to finished, should make the end of April.
Edited by Marklo, Apr 16 2018, 08:42 AM.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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Marklo
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Out with the tweezers to fit all the bits together and then finally time to fit the interior into the fuselage.

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Wings rib detail added, these seem more like strakes or wires on the real thing and vary in every photograph so I've tried to capture the feel of them (if that makes sense), glued in place and first coat of paint. It's not obvious from this viewbut the wing roots will need a little filling and sanding.

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Upper deck attached, went back on reasonably well but it's going to need a bit of filling and sanding to smooth it out.

Getting very close to finished. Then the Mig.....

What's Left:
Fit the bungee cord to the undercarriage.
Fit the spinner to the prop.
Detail the interior.
Rig the Fuselage
Fit the interior
Fit, sand and paint the upper deck
Fit the wings
Fit the cowl, and Spinner.
Fit the Cabane struts
Paint it and add any markings (B1 on the wings i think)
Finish the rigging.
Edited by Marklo, Apr 23 2018, 08:35 AM.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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Dermot
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Coming together very nicely Marklo.
Gallery of my Completed Builds

On the Bench
1/72 Monogram F-105G Wild Weasel Vietnam GB


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Joseph M

Very Nice Marklo.
Cheers
Joe M
Stick & String Rule O.K.
On the bench in order of nearest to completion;
A Model 1/72 Spad A.2 Finished 24/4/18
A Z Models 1/72 Morane "WR". (Schneider race entry from 1914).
K P Models 1/72 Avia BH-3
Mark 1 Models 1/144 Gloster Gladiator
SRAM Models 1/144 SIA 7-B (Resin)
Valom Models 1144 A pair of Sopwith Pups
MSD Models 1/72 Vickers Vimy 66 Commercial
Glencoe Models 1/81 Curtiss Condor
Revell 1/72 Fokker D.VII conversion to a two seater
Curtiss Condor (added 24/4/18) 1/81
Ansaldo S.V.A 9 (added 24/4/18)

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Decisions, decisions, decisions, went with the white Squadron filler in the end (White stuff ?) the green will be difficult to over paint at this stage and I was a bit nervous trying the Vallejo out for the first time at such a critical point in the build.

I'm looking at the various images of the plane and the more I look at it the more I think that the specific plane I'm modelling (the winner of the 1912 Gordon Bennett trophy) may not have had any markings.

What's Left:
Sand and paint the upper deck
Rig the Fuselage
Fit the cowl, and Spinner.
Fit the Cabane struts
Paint it and finish the rigging.
Edited by Marklo, Apr 25 2018, 08:37 AM.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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As far as I can tell no markings. The #2 machine had a painting of the Mona Lisa under the cockpit and may have had an F1 (B!) marking on the rudder. This may have a similar rudder marking ? Hmm, looking at the cabane struts, are mine too shallow ????
Edited by Marklo, Apr 25 2018, 09:30 AM.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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Hmm, looking at the cabane struts, are mine too shallow ????
No they're just not far enough foward, dang will have to fill and redrill the mounting holes.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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No I was right the first time, they're wrong. Somehow I managed to get the angle of the front struts wrong, so nothing else for it, made a new pair.


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Filled/sanded/filled/sanded the upper deck (nearly there) Also added som 10 thou sheet over the foredeck and attached the engine and cowl (my get out of jail card for the Cabane struts).

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Took a few nicer photos of the current state of the build.

What's Left:
Sand and paint the upper deck
Fit the cowl, and Spinner.
Fit the Cabane struts
Paint it and finish the rigging.
Make and fit the headrest. (for some reason I keep forgetting this!)
Retouch the propellor
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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Joseph M

Very Nice Marklo,
Really enjoying the work on this.
Cheers
Joe M
Stick & String Rule O.K.
On the bench in order of nearest to completion;
A Model 1/72 Spad A.2 Finished 24/4/18
A Z Models 1/72 Morane "WR". (Schneider race entry from 1914).
K P Models 1/72 Avia BH-3
Mark 1 Models 1/144 Gloster Gladiator
SRAM Models 1/144 SIA 7-B (Resin)
Valom Models 1144 A pair of Sopwith Pups
MSD Models 1/72 Vickers Vimy 66 Commercial
Glencoe Models 1/81 Curtiss Condor
Revell 1/72 Fokker D.VII conversion to a two seater
Curtiss Condor (added 24/4/18) 1/81
Ansaldo S.V.A 9 (added 24/4/18)

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A small update, got hte cabane struts fitted last night. Just the headrest, the wing rigging and whatever touchup and/or weathering to finish.....
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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Small but significant update, cleaned up and rescribed the wing joints, filled the extra holes in the upper deck, made some extra (eaxtra ?) holes in the upper deck for the control cables and got the upper rigging attachments for the wings on, once I get the lower ones glued in place I can finish the rigging (after I've painted the cabane struts of course) , then it's just the headrest and a little careful touching up (or a lot of haphazard retouching :) in my case ) and it's done!!!!

Edited by Marklo, May 3 2018, 08:10 AM.
On the Bench:-
Sopwith Pup scratchbuild 1:48
ARC-170 1/8something scale
Mk IV Heavy Tank 1:72

Finished Builds:
A7V Scratchbuild /Saint Chamond Scratchbuild
Airfix ME 109 /HE51 Floatplane/Mig 21/Scratchbuilt 1913 Depredussin racer
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